Otrupon Ogbe

Also called Otrupon Bekonwao, Otrupón Logbe, Otrupón Okamba

nº 182 of 256 · Edited by Ricco Ledesma

«A cat with gloves»: here the wheel is born, which brought trade and prosperity, and also the great lesson that good is repaid with evil.

19 patakíes 6 eewó 8 ebbós and works 12 proverbs

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Otrupon Ogbe is Odù number 182 of the 256 in Ifá, part of the Otrupon family. It is also written as Otrupon Bekonwao or Otrupón Logbe or Otrupón Okamba. This page brings together its prayer in Yoruba, 19 patakíes (3 in full in plain sight, with their teaching, ebbó and chants), its proverbs, 8 ebbós and works and the signs it shows in the consultation — with the full eewó in plain sight; the rest of the iré and osogbo and the full recipes open with The Notebook, in English.

The sign at a glance

Order in Ifá: Odù 182 of 256
Composition: Otrupon over Ogbe
Orishas that speak: Shangó · Orishaoko · Yemayá · Elegbara (Aleshujade) · Egun Afefe Laye · Orunmila · Osain

What Ifá says in this sign

Otrupon Ogbe, also known as Otrupón Bekonwao, is the sign where the wheel and the spider's web were born. Shangó made the body of the cart and this odu gave it its wheels, and so the commerce and wealth of the world began to move. It is a sign of long roads and of command: it gives power, strength and authority to whoever receives it, and an Egun guides you throughout your life. But its ruling comes with a condition, because here the tiger ended up shut under a rock for wanting to eat the one who saved him: do all the good you can and never return good with evil, because in the end the only one who loses is you.

You can have ideas that change the lives of many people, and Yemayá sends you good fortune, as long as you do not curse your lot or harm anyone. Be steady like the spider, which never lets go of its web. Do not leave things for later, because here you lose by not doing them in time, and you have debts pending with Shangó: tend to him with food, drum and dance, and he backs you. Be more active, more faithful and more reserved, and lean only on the Santo and on Ifá, not on charms or spirits.

«The tiger ended up under the stone for repaying good with evil. Bekonwao learns to whom he does favors.»The pulse of Otrupon Ogbe

This sign warns that favors are not appreciated and that whoever receives your help may repay you with harm. Someone who calls himself your friend is your enemy: he envies you and holds a grudge, and if he could he would kill you, because he already did it to someone else. There are three people who cannot stand you and an evil spirit that harms you through witchcraft. Do not accept covered food or drink, or anything whose contents are doubtful. You were robbed in your own home, and the thief even danced at your party. The bad thing that once went well for you, do not repeat it, because the second time you end up in prison.

In love, poverty brings quarrels to the couple. You may become so clouded that you want to kill someone or raise your hand against your wife: stay calm, because that violence ends in separation. With the right sacrifice, the fertility and harmony of the couple are protected.

In health, take care of your stomach, your belly and your lungs, and avoid what chills the stomach. You may lose your memory and other faculties. Beware of fire, of trips to the countryside and of drinking, because in a drunken state you may do or say something that costs you dearly. Death wants to take you, and Shangó, well tended, is the one who holds you up so that in time you have your place.

The sign in one line

Do not mix currents, check carefully whatever covered food they serve you, and throw to the air like the harvester, so that Bekonwao's wheel turns toward prosperity.

The prayer of Otrupon Ogbe · Yoruba

Otrupón Bekonwao Apupa Adifafun Shangó Kukuto Kuku Adifafun Alun Oloye Tinshoma Olófin Eyelé Lebo. Adifafun Iban Ayapa Akukó Lebo. Kuagefe Lele Kofele Ado Yu Omigun Adifafun Rere Awo Eure Lebo, Eyele Lebo. Godo Godo Mua Mofin Kaya Mofin Kaya Mofin Kaya.

Súyere
Koko agbani sokut koko.

Ifá says — what Otrupon Ogbe tells you

There is a tendency toward ailments of the stomach, the abdomen and the lungs; you must protect yourself from fire.
An evil spirit affects the person, and someone is causing him harm through witchcraft.
If one does not act in time, losses may occur.
Be very careful with a trip to the countryside, and with a drunken binge that harms you through what you do or say.
You must go to the foot of a palm tree, where a rite will be done with Shangó.
A rogación of the head is done with a jicotea turtle (ayapa).
The herbs of the sign: canistel and palo tambo in cedar.
That you come for a consultation because of a theft you suffered inside your own house: the one who did it was dancing at a party that was given.
That in your house there is an empty cage; fill it.
That a supposed friend of yours is really your enemy, envies you and holds a grudge against you, and would kill you if he could; he has already done that to another person.
That you have done favors that were not appreciated, and you do not appreciate what is done for you either.
That there are three people who cannot stand you.
That two people in your home dreamed the same thing.
That tomorrow you will be confused and angry and will want to kill someone: stay calm.
That you must beware of a quarrel with your wife; do not raise your hand against her, and do not let the misery you go through separate you.

Proverbs of Otrupon Ogbe · Òwe

“A good deed gets paid back with a bad one.”
“Two rams do not drink water at the same spring.”
“The spider never lets her web go slack.”
“The lazy man says tomorrow, but tomorrow never comes.”
“A tiger after one night of hunger is stronger than a well-fed dog.”
“Whoever piles up work piles up debts.”
“The wise man does not let the wicked come near his house.”
“The young man takes pride in his strength; the old man is honored for his grey hair.”
“He who has no head can have no crown.”
“Speaking through another man's mouth is a mistake that brings grief.”
“There is no achievement without respect.”
“Blows do not cure wickedness, but they heal the conscience.”

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Iré and Osogbo

Three iré and three osogbo of this sign, open to everyone.

Iré · what the sign brings

This sign gives power, strength and command to whoever receives it.
Yemayá sends them a piece of luck, as long as they do not curse or do harm to anyone.
Luck comes to the one who does not shed blood out of greed: in the face of danger, a shot into the air can make thieves flee and leave them loot.

Osogbo · what the sign warns

An evil spirit harms them, and someone does them harm with witchcraft.
They owe debts to Shangó and suffer losses when they leave things for later.
They fall ill in the stomach, the belly and the lungs, and suffer a chill in the stomach.

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What is born in Otrupon Ogbe · Ìbí

The wheel.
Orumboti Awo, with what Orun Aborotefa taught him in dreams, had four round objects made and fixed them to the boxes of Oyo: the cart was born, and it brought prosperity, farming and trade.
The spider's web.
In the struggle between flies and spiders, the spiders crouched to avoid the hot water, took in air and were left with their heads pointing downward.

What is forbidden · Eewó

The full eewó of this Odù, open to everyone — with the road each ban came out of.

Do not do favors.
Good is repaid with evil, and in time the only one harmed is you.
Do not eat food or drink beverages that are handed to you covered, nor anything whose origin or contents you do not know.
Through the mouth they are going to harm you greatly.
Do not eat yam or caimito.
Yam makes you lose the luck of Yemayá; caimito gives coldness in the stomach.
Do not eat peanuts, yellow rice, mamey colorado, canistel, white beans, or quimbombó.
Do not repeat the bad thing you did once.
If it went well for you the first time, the second time you will end up in jail.
Do not be disobedient: fulfill your duty to the saint.

Ebbós of Otrupon Ogbe · The sacrifices that open the road

Overcoming enemiesThe ebbós of this Odù🔒 The Notebook LoveEbbó that prevents quarrels between spouses🔒 The Notebook MoneyEbbó of Shangó's drum🔒 The Notebook SpiritualThe cart of Orishaoko🔒 The Notebook

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Works of Otrupon Ogbe · The workings of the sign

MoneyWork to get owó🔒 The Notebook HealthWork for the memory🔒 The Notebook SpiritualOparaldo of Otrupon Bekonwao🔒 The Notebook Overcoming enemiesShangó's work for trouble with the drum (Onilú)🔒 The Notebook

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Patakíes of Otrupon Ogbe · The roads of the Odù

1The farmer who fired into the air

A farmer was told that Yemayá had good fortune set aside for him. He had to meet two requirements: not to curse his luck and not to harm anyone.

One night he noticed that some strangers were prowling around his farm. Instead of shooting at them, he raised his weapon and fired a shot toward the sky. The intruders turned out to be pirates; the blast frightened them and they ran away. They left all their loot behind, a large amount of money.

What it teaches

Luck can come to someone who holds back and does not answer with violence. Keeping the conditions set by the orisha, without harming anyone, opens the door to a benefit nobody expected.

2The hunter and the tiger

Ifá speaks of a kindly hunter. His family sent him into the bush, but he never hunted more than was needed. Once, deep in the bush, he heard moans coming from a cavity closed by a gigantic rock. Looking in, he discovered a tiger, which begged him for help to get out and described itself as a noble tiger. The hunter was wary: if he freed it, the tiger might eat him. But the animal kept pleading and promised, under oath, to behave well toward him.

The hunter freed him. Once out of the hole, the tiger stared at him without blinking, as if to give thanks, and the man thought he was about to be attacked. Cleverly he reproached the tiger: being good, how could he want to devour him? The tiger excused himself by saying he was hungry. So the hunter proposed a deal: they would find three witnesses, so that the tiger could confirm that good is answered with evil.

They set off and first saw an ox. They asked whether good is repaid with good, and he answered no, it is repaid with evil: when young he spent his life plowing, and when old they take him to the slaughterhouse.

The tiger demanded that the hunter hurry, because he was starving. They went on and found a horse, who was asked the same question. He also answered that good is repaid with evil: in his youth he carried his master, and now, old, he has to find his own food.

The tiger said it was time to eat him, but the hunter reminded him of the agreement: the third witness was still missing.

The hunter turned to a fox with the same question. The fox pretended not to understand and asked them first to explain the matter, since otherwise he would give no opinion. The tiger told him that he had climbed a hill, slipped into a hole, and that a rock had come to rest over the entrance. The fox said he did not believe it. The tiger was offended at the doubt, and the fox asked him to show how it had happened. The tiger climbed the hill again and threw himself into the hole once more; from inside he shouted to the hunter to put the stone on him. The hunter set it in place, and the fox ruled that he should leave him there, because good is repaid with good.

What it teaches

Whoever answers a favor with harm ends up trapped by his own ingratitude. The fox’s cleverness showed that the just course is to return good for good.

3Where Shangó stole from Olofin

Shangó was only interested in parties. One day he ran out of money and went to Olofin to receive his blessing. When he saw him, Olofin wanted to know what he had come for. Shangó answered that he missed him and had come to visit, since they had not met for a long time.

Olofin was busy organizing a celebration and took his visitor to the room he was arranging. Many small bags of money were kept there. Shangó looked at them and thought he would not leave with empty pockets. He claimed tiredness and sleepiness, ate supper and lay down to rest. But he was only pretending: he took two small bags and hid them under his cape, convinced that no one would miss that money.

Shangó left early the next day, and Olofin went on with his preparations. Once the party was over, he noticed that two small bags had disappeared. He searched all over the house without success.

Then he had Orunmila come. The diviner consulted and saw this Ifá; he understood that the culprit was Shangó and, so as not to accuse him, kept silent about the sign that had come out. His advice to Olofin was to make ebbó and then prepare a second party, inviting those who had been at the first one and all who had shown themselves around the house in those days, in order to find the thief. For that party he was to offer a ram and have the drum sounded.

When the date came, Olofin stayed alert. He saw Shangó go into the room again and take another small bag. He scolded him: “Rascal! Drop that and hand over what you took the other time.” Shangó begged him to forgive him: poverty had led him to do it.

The warning that remains is to be careful with a son of Shangó, since he may take what belongs to others. And whoever committed a fault should not repeat it: if they did not discover him the first time, the second time they catch him.

What it teaches

Taking advantage of someone who opens his house always ends up being known, however great the need. One who asks forgiveness may receive it. What went well once is not assured a second time, and so it is better not to repeat a fault.

What Orunmila advised Olofin

Make ebbó. Then hold another party with the guests of the first one and the recent visitors to the house, where a ram is offered and the drum is played.

When this path comes out

Keep watch over a son of Shangó, because he may steal, and do not repeat a fault that was already committed.

Prayer that opens the passage of Shangó and Olofin

Abonieshio Oninabileo Nibe Nibe Oni Oluwo Ni Ole Obade Abakan Ala Meyi Abo Aun Adoko Abo Unshinshe Oba Yeun Yardridi Diesaye Abo Motigui Akoreda Oloro Dodieson Maye Maye Esue Guen Mushi Obanike Shilekun Erun Oba Nuleti Kulukulu Asisi Miguini.

4The drummer's ebbó🔒 The Notebook 5Fogueé loses his luck🔒 The Notebook 6Ponla the drummer🔒 The Notebook 7The trap feast of the flies🔒 The Notebook 8The canistel tree🔒 The Notebook 9The wheel was born🔒 The Notebook 10Shangó's drums against the plague of Inka Ogu🔒 The Notebook 11The archer who became king thanks to the spider🔒 The Notebook 12Bekonwao and his drummer brothers🔒 The Notebook 13The spirit of Aña Oni Shangó🔒 The Notebook 14The beggar and the Aña🔒 The Notebook 15Shangó, Olofin and the Aña🔒 The Notebook 16The violin and Aña🔒 The Notebook 17The inheritance🔒 The Notebook 18Oshosi hunts the quails of fertility🔒 The Notebook 19The shepherd and the king🔒 The Notebook

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Frequently asked questions about Otrupon Ogbe

What does the Odù Otrupon Ogbe mean in Ifá?

«A cat with gloves»: here the wheel is born, which brought trade and prosperity, and also the great lesson that good is repaid with evil.

What number is Otrupon Ogbe among the 256 Odù of Ifá?

Otrupon Ogbe is Odù number 182 of the 256 in Ifá, part of the Otrupon family.

Which orishas speak in Otrupon Ogbe?

In the Odù Otrupon Ogbe these orishas speak: Shangó, Orishaoko, Yemayá, Elegbara (Aleshujade), Egun Afefe Laye, Orunmila, Osain.

What is a proverb of the Odù Otrupon Ogbe?

One of the proverbs of Otrupon Ogbe says: «A good deed gets paid back with a bad one.».

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