Ogunda Roso

Also called Oggunda Koroso, Ogunda Iroso, Ogunda Waneye, Ogunda Koroso, Oggunda Iroso

nº 141 of 256 · Edited by Ricco Ledesma

The Ifá of the pelican, who leaves the nest as soon as its feathers come in: you travel, but like the fish, you always have to come back to your own land.

20 patakíes 6 eewó 10 ebbós and works 12 proverbs

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Ogunda Roso is Odù number 141 of the 256 in Ifá, part of the Ogunda family. It is also written as Oggunda Koroso or Ogunda Iroso or Ogunda Waneye or Ogunda Koroso or Oggunda Iroso. This page brings together its prayer in Yoruba, 20 patakíes (3 in full in plain sight, with their teaching, ebbó and chants), its proverbs, 10 ebbós and works and the signs it shows in the consultation — with the full eewó in plain sight; the rest of the iré and osogbo and the full recipes open with The Notebook, in English.

The sign at a glance

Order in Ifá: Odù 141 of 256
Composition: Ogunda over Iroso
In the Diloggún: 3-4 · Ogundá tonti Iroso
Orishas that speak: Elegba / Eshu · Obatalá · Yemayá · Yewá y Olosa · Osun · Ogún y Oshosi · Orishaoko e Inle Oguere · Nana Burukú y Olokun

What Ifá says in this sign

Ogunda Roso, also known as Ogunda Irosun, Ogunda Koroso and Ogunda Waneye, is the sign where the destruction and regeneration of human bodies were born: what wears out in the flesh can be renewed. It is also the Ifá of the pelican. It speaks to a person who moves like a paper dragged by the wind, and its ruling is clear: you need a fixed course and someone to guide you, and with a settled life you obtain what you wish for, even though it costs you a great deal.

Ifá asks you for firmness. When you mark out a path and do not stray from it, you will have clashes at first, but in the end others trust the one who keeps his word. Lean on Orunmila and the orishas, because without that support you go astray, and pay Eshu what you owe him: he watches you and closes your paths when you put off what you promised.

«The fish begins its life in the river, grows in the sea and returns to the river: in the same way Oggunda Koroso always returns to what is its own.»The pulse of Ogunda Roso

At work you can earn the trust of someone powerful, but your great downfall is showing off and feeling above others. Ogunda Waneye treated his companions badly and owed Eshu a rooster; they hid the king's jewels in his sack and pointed him out as a thief. Beware of false testimony born of envy that reaches the courts, do not carry other people's guilt, and do not blindly trust your friends. When Waneye changed the way he treated others and fulfilled what Orunmila asked, he prospered.

Like the pelican's young, which leave the nest as soon as they fly, the godchild who gets what he wants will leave without thanks and speak badly of you. Look after your religious things, because someone wants to pull you away from your faith. In love there is a danger of violence: the man of this sign can come to beat the woman. Never raise your hand. If you court two people at once, there will be fights over you; someone wants to break up your home and a woman may blackmail you. They may also blackmail you with gossip about your manhood or your femininity for associating with adodi or alakuata. A dead person who was your boyfriend or girlfriend will not let you be happy in your marriage: attend to that spirit. The woman of this sign will have a son.

In health, take care of your eyes above all: a blow, a fall, something sharp or a corrosive product can leave you blind in one eye. Watch for tumors and the intestines, which can take you to surgery, and for the weakness of the body in sexual life; eat with little salt. In this sign the illness Obatalá sent became a remedy, and what makes you sick can be cured if it is treated before Ikú arrives. You were born far from where you live and you miss your homeland: like the fish that left the river for the sea, you will probably return someday.

The sign in one line

Settle your life, take care of your sight and dismiss the jealous dead person; for what costs Koroso double, he achieves complete in the end.

The prayer of Ogunda Roso · Yoruba

Ogunda Koroso adifafun eni tinsheru, osiadié, adié lebó, oboñú imbeube osa olosa unshawo guri adifafun Lashure oti shona Orisha kirin buruku ati Oshún lodafun Egun, Odé, ati Ogún.

Súyere
Ogunda Iroso ebbó wa inla Obatalá, talabo iré eyelé ebbó, eyé ni eyelé alaebo, niloroniso Obatalá Bara lodeo.

Ifá says — what Ogunda Roso tells you

Protect your eyesight: you may end up blind in one eye. Have your eyes treated and avoid blows, falls, sharp objects and corrosive products that could harm an eye. Washing the eyes with the urine of a small child is prescribed.
If the Awó or the iworo is feeling low: two white doves offered over Osun from the person's head and then a rogación. This applies equally when an Awó gets this Odù in a reading.
If the woman is pregnant, she will give birth to a boy.
It points to health problems in the organs and a lack of vigor for sexual relations.
There is a wish to leave the current job or to move out of the home where one lives.
You may suffer from tumors: the work with Obatalá, and the decoction of anón root with crushed plantain stump.
Take care of your insides: there are intestinal problems and you may need surgery.
For a man: beware of blackmail by a woman.
The person was born far from where they are now and longs to go back to their place of origin: it is likely that they will return, even if only to die.
To be well, you must lean heavily on Orunmila and on the Saints; whoever does not can be lost.
That two husbands live together under your roof, just as a dog and a cat live together.
That you will meet an older woman who has, or will have, a very beautiful daughter, a daughter of Oshún; and that you wish to win over two or more of them: be careful, because there may be a fight over you.
That someone, moved by envy, will accuse you falsely and the law will step in. It is like a theft: be careful not to pay for or carry the blame of others and end up in prison.
That you should avoid falling asleep with your mouth open, wherever you are, because witchcraft could be done to you through it.
That you will have a son who will have many faults toward you, and that something will be lost to you that you will deeply regret.
That you are being pursued by a dead person who in life was your boyfriend or girlfriend, and who now does not let you enjoy peace or happiness in your current marriage.
That it is very hard for you to achieve what you want, although you reach it in the end.
That you should not eat much salt.
That you should beware of betrayals by friends or by companions in study, work or parties.
That you should be careful: you could lose what you have received in this religion, or someone may try to pull you away from it.

Proverbs of Ogunda Roso · Òwe

“Old does not mean worn out.”
“Mockery is paid for with mockery.”
“When the rooster crows, the idle man grumbles.”
“The trap has only one price: blood.”
“Faith moves mountains.”
“You do not need a big stick to break a rooster's head.”
“The fever is not in the sheet.”
“Those who arrive at the river first find the cleanest water.”
“A donkey always says thank you with a kick.”
“Upright thought brings triumph, reckless thought brings suffering.”
“The man of faith respects the sacred signs; the unbeliever mocks.”
“Wisdom dwells in the mind that reasons.”

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Iré and Osogbo

Three iré and three osogbo of this sign, open to everyone.

Iré · what the sign brings

The woman of this sign will have a son, and if she is pregnant, she will give birth to a boy.
If they give Eshu what they owed him, their luck improves, they move to a bigger place and prosper.
When they do everything that Orunmila marks for them, they end up esteemed and respected by everyone.

Osogbo · what the sign warns

They live without direction, change their ideas all the time and live a disorganized life.
Arrogance and showing off are their great downfall: their colleagues set a trap for them and Eshu closes their roads.
Because they treat their colleagues badly, these entangle them before the boss and they lose their post.

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What is born in Ogunda Roso · Ìbí

The destruction of people's bodies and their regeneration.
Arun Buburu Tobakikan rotted the flesh, and Obatalá and Orunmila gave the way to change it into regeneration, as long as Ikú did not arrive first.
That Ogún and Elegba eat white female goat.
From the trap for Osun with Obatalá's goat.
That Yemayá ate fried pork and plantain chips.
The Ifá of the pelican.
As soon as the birds grow feathers and have the strength to fly, they leave the nest never to return.
Blackmail, and the young rooster turning into a hen.
That a man raises his hand to a woman.
That you go from the wide to the narrow.
That Ogún and Oshosi traveled together.

What is forbidden · Eewó

The full eewó of this Odù, open to everyone — with the road each ban came out of.

Carnal relations are forbidden.
Olofin decreed that no man remains a complete man after touching one of the daughters of Yewá or Olosa.
Do not sleep in someone else's place with your mouth open.
They can throw witchcraft into your mouth.
Do not be proud or boastful.
It is the great osogbo of this Ifá.
Do not raise your hand to a woman, and do not treat your spouse with bad manners.
Do not change your ideas all the time.
Like the Obá of the land of Disha Nile: his people were a kite in the wind, without character or will.
Do not eat much salt.

Ebbós of Ogunda Roso · The sacrifices that open the road

HealthThe ebbó of the tumors🔒 The Notebook Overcoming enemiesThe ebbó of the yagruma🔒 The Notebook SpiritualThe ebbó of the fish of two waters🔒 The Notebook Keeping death awayThe ebbó of the priestesses🔒 The Notebook LossThe ebbó of unsteadiness🔒 The Notebook LoveThe ebbó of the ewe's curse🔒 The Notebook

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Works of Ogunda Roso · The workings of the sign

HealthThe two doves of the fallen man🔒 The Notebook SpiritualThe gall of the godchild🔒 The Notebook HealthWashing the eyes🔒 The Notebook LoveThe offering to Yemayá🔒 The Notebook

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Patakíes of Ogunda Roso · The roads of the Odù

1When Oggunda Iroso Was Accused of Theft

To the king, Oggunda Iroso was a man to be fully trusted. Yet he treated those who worked with him badly and did not heed the advice Orunmila gave him in an osode consultation. For that reason they stripped him of his post.

The origin of it all was a broken promise: he had offered a rooster to Eshu and never delivered it. As he passed through the square, they found in his possession a sack with belongings of the monarch, and so they began to call him a thief. Moral: what is left owing to Eshu, however little, is paid later with interest.

What it teaches

Mistreating one's companions and not obeying what Ifá has marked leaves a person without support when the test comes. What was promised to Eshu must be fulfilled, because a small debt returns as a big problem.

2Yewá, Olosa and the vow of chastity

Yewá and Olosa lived in a lagoon and there they received the offerings of their subjects. Among their favorites was Lashure, a very handsome young man who made his living fishing in those waters.

One day, when he reached adulthood, Lashure began to use his beauty to seduce the daughters of Yewá and Olosa, one by one, and made them break their vow of chastity. Yewá and Olosa wept bitterly. Since they did not want to kill Lashure, they went to see Orunmila.

Orunmila performed the osode for them and this Ifá came out, Oggunda Koroso. He told them: “You must perform a rogation to change that young man's sex. No man on earth can go on living as a complete man after having been with a daughter of Yewá or of Olosa. Olofin decreed it so.”

They made the ebbó, and soon the young man changed until he became an adodi. The daughters who were pregnant miscarried, and they buried the fetuses in jars on the riverbank, with a gold chain placed on top. Then they returned to Yewá's house, and she gave each of them a knife called omotigú so that they could live. In exchange, all of them swore chastity and virtue before Yewá, and in this way the brotherhood of priestesses was formed.

This Ifá forbids carnal relations, and from it comes the fact that this Orisha has her own knife.

What it teaches

Vows that have been made are tested by beauty and desire, and this path answers with firmness, without taking anyone's life. This is why the priestesses of Yewá take on a commitment of chastity and virtue.

Rogation of Yewá and Olosa

Orunmila indicated a rogation to change the sex of the young man Lashure. The complete ebbó is in the full treatise.

Prohibition of this Ifá

This Ifá forbids carnal relations. From it come Yewá's own knife and the vow of chastity of her priestesses.

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3The rooster Oggunda Waneye owed to Eshu

Oggunda Waneye, a son of Ogún, was trusted by the king of his land. His character was harsh and he did not get along with the other Awoses, his colleagues. Orunmila insistently advised him to look after Elegba in order to protect his home, but Waneye never obeyed.

His colleagues took advantage of this: they slandered him before the king until the king removed him from his post. However, the deeper reason was different. Waneye had promised a rooster to Eshu beside a yagruma tree and never kept his word.

Without suspecting the trap, he went to the square. There, inside his bag, the royal jewels appeared. They accused him of stealing them and the king's guards (ashelú) went after him. He managed to escape and ended up beside that same yagruma tree, where Eshu presented himself and ordered him to consult. Waneye did it right there: Oggunda Koroso came out for him and then he remembered Orunmila's instruction.

He looked for a rooster and took his bag. To make the ebbó he walked around the tree seven times, with Elegba inside the bag and the rooster fastened to his waist. He ended by giving the bird to the otá of Eshu, located at the foot of the yagruma. His luck turned: he moved to a larger land and did well there, for having obeyed Orunmila and paid his debt to Eshu.

For that reason the Awó of this Odù is subject to an obligation. He must go with his Elegba to the yagruma and offer a rooster there for the otá of Eshu that dwells in that tree, three times each year: during the first week of the year, during the first week of the middle of the year, and during the first week of the last month.

What it teaches

Leaving unpaid what was promised to Eshu closes doors even for a person with a good position. Recognizing the mistake, settling the debt, and obeying Orunmila again brings luck back.

Oggunda Waneye's ebbó

A rooster and a bag with Elegba inside. Walk around the yagruma tree seven times, with the bird fastened at the waist, and at the end give it to the otá of Eshu that is beside the tree.

Obligation of the Awó of this Odù

Go with his Elegba to the tree and offer a rooster for the otá of Eshu located in it. It is repeated three times a year: in the first week of the year, in the first week of the middle of the year, and in the first week of the last month.

Prayer of this path

Oggunda wanaye obani oye kukute kuku eni tinsheru apo osa arebo abonu umbo imbura igi bayekun akuko fifeshu Ifa ni kaferefun Elegba.

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4When Elegba lost an eye🔒 The Notebook 5Obatalá, Arun and the plantain stump🔒 The Notebook 6The Obá's unsteadiness🔒 The Notebook 7The fish that comes back to the river to die🔒 The Notebook 8The house that broke Orunmila's board🔒 The Notebook 9The ferret and the cat🔒 The Notebook 10Osun pays for the goat's guilt🔒 The Notebook 11Pride and boasting🔒 The Notebook 12The ewe's curse🔒 The Notebook 13When Ogún was looking for his wife🔒 The Notebook 14The revenge of Orun under the bridge🔒 The Notebook 15Eshu turns into a crocodile🔒 The Notebook 16Guilty or innocent🔒 The Notebook 17The ivory ikines🔒 The Notebook 18Malice and innocence🔒 The Notebook 19The hunter of the hills🔒 The Notebook 20The moon's three children🔒 The Notebook

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The full treatise is in English. With The Notebook, the whole sign opens on this page in English: the full text of every patakí, the recipes for the ebbós and works, and the iré and osogbo readings. · This page is also available in Spanish: See Ogunda Roso in Spanish →

Frequently asked questions about Ogunda Roso

What does the Odù Ogunda Roso mean in Ifá?

The Ifá of the pelican, who leaves the nest as soon as its feathers come in: you travel, but like the fish, you always have to come back to your own land.

What number is Ogunda Roso among the 256 Odù of Ifá?

Ogunda Roso is Odù number 141 of the 256 in Ifá, part of the Ogunda family.

Which orishas speak in Ogunda Roso?

In the Odù Ogunda Roso these orishas speak: Elegba / Eshu, Obatalá, Yemayá, Yewá y Olosa, Osun, Ogún y Oshosi, Orishaoko e Inle Oguere, Nana Burukú y Olokun.

What is a proverb of the Odù Ogunda Roso?

One of the proverbs of Ogunda Roso says: «Old does not mean worn out.».

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