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Iroso Sa

Also called Iroso Sun Sun

nº 85 of 256 · Edited by

Where the grains were born and Shangó collects his debts with fire: Oshún, the sinner, was the only one who went back into the flames for Orunmila.

17 patakíes 4 eewó 10 ebbós and works 16 proverbs

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Iroso Sa is Odù number 85 of the 256 in Ifá, part of the Iroso family. It is also written as Iroso Sun Sun. This page brings together its prayer in Yoruba, 17 patakíes (3 in full in plain sight, with their teaching, ebbó and chants), its proverbs, 10 ebbós and works and the signs it shows in the consultation — with the full eewó in plain sight; the rest of the iré and osogbo and the full recipes open with The Notebook, in English.

The sign at a glance

Order in Ifá
Odù 85 of 256
Composition
Iroso over Osa
In the Diloggún
4-9 · Iroso tonti Osá
Orishas that speak
Shangó · Oshún · Orunmila · Osanyin · Obatalá · Ogún · Elegba

What Ifá says in this sign

Iroso Sa is the sign where cereals were born, the grain that feeds people. Here it was also decided that Oshún eats beside Orunmila and holds the highest place on the shelf of the orishas: when the house was burning and everyone fled, she was the only one who went back into the flames to bring out Orunmila, who could not walk, and he forgave her. Its ruling speaks of sacred debts: pay as soon as possible what you promised Shangó and Oshún, because here a debt with Shangó can cost the house and even life itself.

Once that debt is paid, the sign is generous. Shangó and Oshún have luck set aside for you for the day you hold on to them, and a friend who has died wants to help you: dedicate a mass to him. You have money saved, and if you move house, luck will find you. Like Elegba, who won his war by arming himself little by little, prepare with patience and with the help of Ifá: seeing you strong, your enemies will respect you and people will take your side.

«Everyone fled from the fire; the sinner came back, and today Oshún eats beside Orunmila.»The pulse of Iroso Sa

Your failing lies in faith. You keep your saints but do not work with them, you forget the oath you made before Olofin and, when something goes wrong, you blame them. You are distrustful and always think you are being deceived, although the harm may come from someone in your own house whom you trust completely and who keeps what you offer. What you were told to do and did not do brings you theft and losses. Hoarding money and suffering every time you spend it drives your luck away. Besides, your friends want to take your post in order to occupy it themselves.

In love, if you are alone, look for a partner, for you will find one. But a betrayal in love can end in a fire set out of revenge, and desiring another man's wife can cost you your life. If you are a woman, two men may fight over you and put your children in danger.

In health, the man may suffer some impotence, and in the woman a fright can stop her period. At times your head becomes so troubled you feel you might lose your mind. If you are ill, take care of yourself and do not disobey, for Obatalá was left crippled for not doing the ebbó; respect your elders. Make sure no one in the house is burned with boiling water or grease. Fulfill your duty to Shangó and Oshún, and from then on you will know no losses.

The sign in one line

Pay for your ram, work with your Saints and do not weep over the money you spend, for Iroso Sa is saved by the faith he practices, not the one he declares.

The prayer of Iroso Sa · Yoruba

Iroso Sa Ifá pele lelé oguele wa guere manile ilá pupua Ologin tinshe ofoyude Olofin, maferefún Shangó.

Ifá says — what Iroso Sa tells you

Proverbs of Iroso Sa · Òwe

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Iré and Osogbo

Three iré and three osogbo of this sign, open to everyone.

Iré · what the sign brings

  • Cereals are born in this sign.

  • They have money saved up.

  • A deceased friend among the Egun wants to help them, and a mass said in that person's name opens that support.

Osogbo · what the sign warns

  • They must pay as soon as possible what they promised to Shangó and Oshún.

  • Because of a debt to Shangó there may be a fire in the house, and the person and their family may lose their lives.

  • Someone in the house may be seriously burned by hot water or hot grease.

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What is born in Iroso Sa · Ìbí

What is forbidden · Eewó

The full eewó of this Odù, open to everyone — with the road each ban came out of.

Ebbós of Iroso Sa · The sacrifices that open the road

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Works of Iroso Sa · The workings of the sign

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Patakíes of Iroso Sa · The roads of the Odù

1Oshún Went Into the Fire for Orunmila

Shangó, Oshún, Ogún and Orunmila shared a house. Shangó’s wife was Oshún, although at the same time she lived with Ogún; she also had three other lovers in town.

Orunmila’s legs were crippled and he had trouble walking. One morning, when the day’s consultation began, this Ifá appeared for him and he had to make an ebbó. Oshún was the only one who cared and she obtained everything he needed. In the reading, Ifá announced a fire in the house.

Shangó found out that Oshún was betraying him. He waited for a moment when everyone inside the house was distracted and lit it on all four sides, to take revenge. Seeing the flames, everyone ran out. Oshún remembered that Orunmila could not walk and went back in to look for him. She did not find him and went out by the back door. There she came upon Orunmila, who had gotten out by himself thanks to the fright.

Oshún said to him: “I went back in to save you and I did not find you. That is why I came out this way, and I see that you saved yourself.” Orunmila answered: “I will always be grateful for what you did. Although they call you a sinner, you were the only one who thought of me. From now on your faults are forgiven, and from today you are the only one authorized to eat beside me.”

For this reason, when he invites her, Oshún eats beside him the goat, the hen and whatever else Orunmila eats.

What it teaches

An act of loyalty at the moment of danger can erase earlier faults. Whoever remembers another person when he needs it most receives forgiveness and a place of honor at his side.

Orunmila’s ebbó

Orunmila had to make an ebbó when this Ifá appeared, and Oshún obtained everything he needed. The story does not give the items.

What Oshún eats beside Orunmila

Goat, hen and whatever else Orunmila eats; Oshún eats it as his guest.

2A debt to Shangó must be paid

Orunmila was visiting a house when, at daybreak, this Ifá came out and announced that there would be a fire there. He wanted to know what they owed in that house, and Ifá answered that only a ram for Shangó remained unpaid. Orunmila asked whether that was the origin of the fire, and the answer was yes: Shangó was already tired of waiting for his payment and was coming to collect it.

So Shangó set the house on fire and stood by the exit with his bow and arrow, ready to shoot anyone who tried to escape. Orunmila discovered him and at once covered his face with the mask of Obatalá. He came out of the house and asked Shangó to lower his weapons. Shangó, believing he had Obatalá before him, obeyed. Then he noticed the trick, recognized Orunmila and explained: “I acted this way because in this house they owe me a ram and refuse to give it to me.”

Orunmila replied that this was none of his business, since he was only there on a visit, but promised to demand that they settle the ram, so that things would return to their course. Shangó agreed. The people of the house handed over the ram, but they had already lost their dwelling and nearly lost their lives as well.

Among the saints, Obatalá is the only one able to calm another who has become angry over a debt.

What it teaches

A debt to an orisha that is left unpaid ends up being collected, even at the cost of the house. Paying what is owed on time avoids the loss, and a person with the authority to calm the offended one can stop the disaster.

The pending debt

A ram for Shangó: the only debt of the house and the cause of the fire.

3Obatalá fell ill because he disobeyed

Obatalá was sick, and his house was about to come down. He went to Orunmila, and the odu that came out was Iroso Sa, the one of the zunzún. The diviner prescribed an ebbó: a zunzún bird, three roosters, four sticks with four little dolls and a little house, together with eku, eyá, epó and sixteen pesos and eighty cents. He would have to look for the things in the forest, and there he must pay the tributes that the forest demands.

But Obatalá ignored the warning. He entered the forest and, after walking for a long while, came upon Elegba, to whom he explained Orunmila's instructions so that he would help with the ebbó. Together they went on until they found Ogún, and Obatalá told the same story again and asked for help. At that moment the sky grew dark, thunder rolled and Shangó arrived. To him too he repeated his story, and the four of them kept walking.

Deep in the forest Osain appeared before them and demanded: “With whose permission are you in my house?” None of them answered. They continued on their way without giving him any importance, crushing plants and cutting down trees.

Back at his house, with the materials for the ebbó and with the companions who had followed him, Obatalá did not carry out the ebbó, but fell into a deep sleep. A strange noise woke him. He looked toward one corner and saw it crumbling; then the roof gave way, and the opposite corner also began to fall. The fright was so great that he became ill.

He hurried to Orunmila and told him everything. The diviner explained that this was happening because he had ignored the advice and left the ebbó undone. Obatalá begged him to save him. Orunmila prepared the ebbó and, before closing it, added that another cause was not having paid the forest what is owed to it, besides not carrying out the ebbó that the odu had marked. “Now you are unwell and your house is collapsing,” he said. “The figures who live in your house are hungry: offer each of them a rooster, placed in a corner, and one of the chicks from the ebbó; give them three cents; and take a zunzún bird to Osain in the forest.”

Obatalá did what he was told, felt better, and his house never fell again. Grateful, he went back to Orunmila, gave him a goat, prostrated himself before him, paid him moforibale and declared that no one could equal him.

What it teaches

Ignoring advice and leaving the ebbó undone brings illness and ruin. Entering someone else's place without asking permission or paying what is owed is a fault. When it is recognized and what was indicated is carried out, health returns.

Ebbó marked by Orunmila

Eku, eyá, epó and sixteen pesos and eighty cents, plus a zunzún bird, three roosters, a little house and four sticks with four little dolls. Everything is looked for in the forest, paying its tributes.

For the companions and for Osain

A rooster for each of the figures in the house, placed in a corner, together with one chick from the ebbó for each, and three cents as payment. Separately, a zunzún bird for Osain, which is taken to the forest.

Formula with which Orunmila closes Obatalá's ebbó

To Iban Eshu

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Frequently asked questions about Iroso Sa

What does the Odù Iroso Sa mean in Ifá?

Where the grains were born and Shangó collects his debts with fire: Oshún, the sinner, was the only one who went back into the flames for Orunmila.

What number is Iroso Sa among the 256 Odù of Ifá?

Iroso Sa is Odù number 85 of the 256 in Ifá, part of the Iroso family.

Which orishas speak in Iroso Sa?

In the Odù Iroso Sa these orishas speak: Shangó, Oshún, Orunmila, Osanyin, Obatalá, Ogún, Elegba.

What is a proverb of the Odù Iroso Sa?

One of the proverbs of Iroso Sa says: «What you owe Shangó is paid with fire or paid with a ram.».

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